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Big Blue Owl wrote:
We may not be gullible enough yet for the complete take-over of anything, but such things come about bit-by-bit more often than not.
True, but we have gone well over 200 years and so far, as you say, the only socialist bit we have accepted so far is social security, which will likely not exist when it comes time for us to collect it.

Aside:
I wonder how they'll try to explain away my 50 years of paying into it and getting nothing out of it in the end?

Me: "Where's my money?
Them: "Gone."
Me: BLAM!!!!
By the way, Hitler's Nazi party was not conservative. Nazi was short for Nationalist Socialist party if I remember right.
They were Christians as well, as I understand it, but we'd probably better not speak about that. *wink*
I see more than just Social Security as the socialism we've bought in to. Welfare, for example. FEMA as well.

And as for the Nazi's being Christian....they executed any Christian who did not go along with their ideals. They did not live according to the two main points of Christianity that Jesus held forth, love G-d, love your fellow man.

Again, from Hitler's planks:
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

Christ never called for punishing those who make a profit with death.
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

The laws of the Jews set forth by G-d never called for the discrimination of foreigners in work like this.
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
This brand of "Christianity" that they espouse is a very dangerous one. If any part of someone's faith offends the race, the faith is disallowed. A number of pastors lost their lives in concentration camps because of this, including the, for many, insipiring martyr Dietrich Bonhoffer. If you research Bonhoffer, I think you would be quite impressed with his brand of Christianity and love of mankind.
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Yes, they used Christianity for their own ends and had no idea what it really meant, but they used it.

Adolf Hitler & Christian Nationalism:
A popular image of the Nazis is that they were fundamentally anti-Christian while devout Christians were anti-Nazi. The truth is that German Christians supported the Nazis because they believed that Adolf Hitler was a gift to the German people from God. German Christianity was a divinely sanctioned religious movement which combined Christian doctrine and German character in a unique and desirable manner: True Christianity was German and True German-ness was Christian.

What was Positive Christianity?:
The NSDAP Party Program stated in part: ?We demand freedom for all religious confessions in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or conflict with the customs and moral sentiments of the Germanic race. The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession....? Positive Christianity adhered to basic orthodox doctrines and asserted that Christianity must make a practical, positive difference in people?s lives.

Christian anti-Semitism:
Anti-Semitism was an important aspect of the Nazi state, but the Nazis didn?t invent it; instead, they drew upon centuries of Christian anti-Semitism and extensive anti-Semitic theology in Germany?s Christian community. The Nazis believed that Jewishness was more than just a religion, a position which was supported by religious leaders who supplied the Nazis with baptismal and marriage records to help identify converted Jews.

More:
http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitler ... istian.htm
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Mmmmhmmmmm I read that.

I don't deny they claimed Christianity, but that isn't what made them bad. It was their overall worldview, which, if you take Jesus' own words on what Christianity means, was very not Christian.
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