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Slaine mac Roth



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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'd have to say that my favourites are Open Secrets, Mission and Tai Shan. The only one I've never really got into is High Water but I think that is due to it being the last song and, as HYF is a walkman mainstay, I usually get to where I'm going but I get to hear it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lock and Key! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Second Nature" So true... "It ought to be second nature, at least that's what I feel. Now I lay me down in dreamland, I know perfect's not for real."
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me HYF represents "Smooth Rush".

PoW was sharp and definite. Like Neil's smaller toms "popping" at the start of "Big $". Sharper still on GD and so on.

HYF was like milk. Wide rich layers. Not dark - just thick.

"Turn The Page" and "Prime Mover" my favs - I think. "Mission" still chokes me up and I love the pile driver on FT! I always had a unsure feeling about TSS. Not sure why.

It's kind of funny how then they went back to even a shaper and more defined sound on Presto. Snappier again.

HYF should have been called Got Milk! It amazes me how they are never scared to change. VT wasn't smooth or sharp - more "loose" than anything to a point of nearly drunk! But the power on VT hasn't been heard in a long time.

HYF is one great record. What's a record?

Blah...Blah...Blah...I want milk!
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex is really good on Time Stand Still Cool
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes he is 'nite. I completely agree.

But there is something about that song that doesn't seem right to me. The emotion in Geddy's singing is great. The concept and lyrics are great.

Maybe its Aimee's voice that never sat well with me. But it's more than that too. The tempo is disjointed to me somehow. I'll likely never understand what "it" is about it.

I remember when it was released on radio and a lot of people who never gave Rush the time of day said "wow...that's impressive". The song pushed them further into the mainstream. One reason I believe is that eveyone could relate to the concept.

When I hear Ged sing "If I could slow it all down" - I still get huge goose bumps, but in the end the song is missing something (to me).

I know it's a beautiful song - I know a lot of fans put it in a special place - it's just one I would have tinkered with some more.

In my best Robin Leach voice: "And I don't know why"!

Oh well... champagne wishes and caviar dreams.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds funny to me too, but I don't mind Razz The sound is not thick at all on the song.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Hold You Fire...

The last "great" Rush album IMO.

An incredibly smooth, polished creation with excellent use of keyboards and razor sharp signature guitar. Very much of it's time, it captured that late 80's ambience perfectly.

Some fine songs here, with the sublime "Open Secrets", "Nission" and "Turn The Page" being particular stand outs. As a bass player, this album is a veritable feast, and has given me many hours of enjoyable finger twisting...Still don't know how he can play Turn the Page and sing at the same time...B@st@rd!

However, IMO the only thing elevating this album to Hemispheres, PEW,MP status is the last two songs, which are pretty dire..but thats what skip buttons are for..
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you play bass eh fridge? cool stuff. I'll admit this album is fun to play, but not challenging in my opinion, i still sit back and jam it to relax, very fun but it does just that, allow me to relax.
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Fridge



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Myghin wrote:
So you play bass eh fridge? cool stuff. I'll admit this album is fun to play, but not challenging in my opinion, i still sit back and jam it to relax, very fun but it does just that, allow me to relax.


Yes, I know what you mean... I have played Bass for about 18 years, but for the last few years I have been working at sea, so am away from home (and my bass) for long periods of time...as a consequence I get rusty, and almost have to relearn my style every time I am home...Its frustrating not being able to gig anymore, so my playing has suffered as a result.

It depends what you mean about challenging. Sure, its easy enough to learn the lines, but to write them in the first place? Thats another matter entirely. Nowadays, I am more of a songwriter than a bass player., though one day I hope to come back to work on dry land, and get playing in a band again, which is what its all about really
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fridge wrote:

It depends what you mean about challenging. Sure, its easy enough to learn the lines, but to write them in the first place? Thats another matter entirely. Nowadays, I am more of a songwriter than a bass player., though one day I hope to come back to work on dry land, and get playing in a band again, which is what its all about really


Very cool, i am a young song writer myself, i try to write simply on the platform that, play how you want, avoid everything about the mainstream because now it sucks, i suppose my bass carries a fair deal of rush infleunce but that can't be help once your enlightened
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold Your Fire was the first CD of Rush I ever bought. I love it and my favourite songs are Turn The Page and Prime Mover.

A brilliant album.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Force Ten deserves a mention too, along with Prime Mover. Some great stuff on HYF.
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Sir Myghin



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aye those basslines are happening force ten i got so into i rattled that siding on my house, my amp was only half up, lol i was playing really hard , heheh , usually have to go at least to 6/6 volume/gain to rattle stuff
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to it the other day for the first time in a long while...my assessment was "better than I remembered, but ultimately not what I was hoping for". I don't know if this comment makes sense, but...there are alot of great moments, highlights, and sounds on HYF, but not many great songs (IMO of course). I'd still give it a 3 outta 5 'tho...
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