CygnusX1 wrote:
In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....
Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog
LEAVE??? BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR DRINK???
That's just un-American.
Waste a beer or drink here and you'll get a foot-in-the-arse.
CygnusX1 wrote:
In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....
Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog
LEAVE??? BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR DRINK???
That's just un-American.
Waste a beer or drink here and you'll get a foot-in-the-arse.
That said....some of us don't know when to stop
hey...I'm the nicest drunk you'll ever meet.
I'll even throw up in the trash can.
And I'm sure it would always be a pleasure considering
CygnusX1 wrote:
In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....
Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog
LEAVE??? BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR DRINK???
That's just un-American.
Waste a beer or drink here and you'll get a foot-in-the-arse.
That said....some of us don't know when to stop
hey...I'm the nicest drunk you'll ever meet.
I'll even throw up in the trash can.
I get happy, then happyweepy, then pass out.
Puking, as a foregone conclusion, 99 times out of 100 is in the trash can.
Before Al Gore's film can be show in UK schools, 11 inconvenient un-truths must be pointed out to students.
But I'm sure he'll still win the nobel prize.
The decision by the government to distribute Al Gore's film An Inconvenient Truth has been the subject of a legal action by New Party member Stewart Dimmock. Although a full ruling has yet to be given, the Court found that the film was misleading in 11 respects and that the Guidance Notes drafted by the Education Secretary?s advisors served only to exacerbate the political propaganda in the film.
In order for the film to be shown, the Government must first amend their Guidance Notes to Teachers to make clear that 1.) The Film is a political work and promotes only one side of the argument. 2.) If teachers present the Film without making this plain they may be in breach of section 406 of the Education Act 1996 and guilty of political indoctrination. 3.) Eleven inaccuracies have to be specifically drawn to the attention of school children.
The inaccuracies are:
The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government?s expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government?s expert had to accept that it was ?not possible? to attribute one-off events to global warming.
The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government?s expert had to accept that this was not the case.
The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant?s evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.
Not quite the same thing, since he has proclaimed to be proud of it when speaking to certain crowds...
Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I've hoed it. I've dug in it. I've sprayed it, I've chopped it, I've shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it.
Persoanlly, I don't care where he comes down on tobacco. It's only when politicians come down on two sides of an issue that I raise an eyebrow.
If they claim to have changed their minds on an issue, well maybe that's true. I've done it. But I want to hear the story about their pivot point and see if I buy it or not.
Same here. Children can be made to think that all sorts of things are ok, if not completely normal and good. I can see him knee-high to a toad, processing tobacco for Dad & Mom, pretty sure that this is what life is all about.
I'd also like to know how/when the turn-around occurred.
ElfDude wrote:Not quite the same thing, since he has proclaimed to be proud of it when speaking to certain crowds...
Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and transferred it. I've hoed it. I've dug in it. I've sprayed it, I've chopped it, I've shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and stripped it and sold it.
Persoanlly, I don't care where he comes down on tobacco. It's only when politicians come down on two sides of an issue that I raise an eyebrow.
If they claim to have changed their minds on an issue, well maybe that's true. I've done it. But I want to hear the story about their pivot point and see if I buy it or not.
I don't care either. In fact, I'm gonna go outside and have a smoke.
My mom worked 'bacca when she was a kid, and she smoked for years, but it didn't stop her from threatening to beat me silly if she ever caught me smoking! LOL Of course, she didn't want me to smoke because of the health issues.
ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.
His comments came on the same day that the Nobel committee honoured Mr Gore for his work in support of the link between humans and global warming.
"We're brainwashing our children," said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous."
At his first appearance since the award was announced in Oslo, Mr Gore said: "We have to quickly find a way to change the world's consciousness about exactly what we're facing."
Mr Gore shared the Nobel prize with the United Nations climate panel for their work in helping to galvanise international action against global warming.
But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.
However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.
"We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was," Dr Gray said.
During his speech to a crowd of about 300 that included meteorology students and a host of professional meteorologists, Dr Gray also said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error.
He cited statistics showing there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperatures, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.
"The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said.
He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science.
"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."
He doesn't deny we have had an impact, but rather, "The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said."
We will know in 10-15 years if he is right, though. Since he said, "We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was." If we look back and see we were all taken for a ride, then he is right. If not, he is wrong.
grrrrr....
Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog
