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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: medical stuff Reply with quote

great title eh Laughing

anyway...see how you all need insurance for medical care...if you say break a leg or something and you've got no money and no insurance...what happens..?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go to an emergency room at the hospital, they have to help you. They'll fix it, put a cast on it and grudgingly send you a bill (that they realize will probably turn into a court case.) I would say that if you have no money, job or insurance you'd probably get medical assistance/welfare, but would have to already be receiving it to not cause a confustication.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow..you get a bill for going to the hospital then might end up in court!

are you not meant to be one of the richest countries and the government cant provide free medical care?...jings Im glad i live here cuz Im that accident prone Laughing ...also I had Caelan at the hospital just last week with a split head...Id owe thousands by now!
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new government is trying to achieve just that, but are and will no-doubt get lots of opposition from conservatives and the rest of the "me/I" party. The "we/us" party will probably get this off of the ground in the next year or so. One of the good things about the U.S./Obama version of Universal Healthcare is that, if you want to keep your current provider and pay the fees, you can. If you can't afford it, you can be a part of the Universal bit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

owlie...need to admit...what you just said was gobbligook Laughing

one thing i may have got from that it is the government will get opposition from some folk saying you lot dont deserve free medical care....do people actually want these people in power that are gonna deprive you of that..?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If our emergency rooms (here, in my "sanctuary" county) weren't already
filled to capacity with illegals suffering nothing more than headaches, it'd
sure make for much better health care here.

Jus' sayin.'

While on the subject, if universal care is so adored, why are Canadians
running down here to get treated - and pay our outrageous fees?

I'll tell you why - because they will DIE waiting to have surgery up there.

They have no choice. You wait until you're seen - or you die.

Sounds like a good case for elderly euthanasia if we go any further down
the road to socialism. It's been done before.

The Germans can tell you all about it.

Realistically, we already treat those who can't pay. What's the difference?

I've been paying for their "universal care" for my entire career! LOL

And why can't I afford to have my teeth fixed? My insurance only offers
dental DISCOUNTS - not acceptable.

Do they not think we need our teeth?

Dental coverage here is WORSE than medical coverage if you ask me.

That's just sad.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so Canadians havnt got private care if they so need it...?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schuette wrote:
owlie...need to admit...what you just said was gobbligook Laughing

one thing i may have got from that it is the government will get opposition from some folk saying you lot dont deserve free medical care....do people actually want these people in power that are gonna deprive you of that..?


Plainly put, Democrats generally want universal healthcare and Republicans don't. While it seems that Dems want everyone to be taken care of evenly, fairly, all-the-same (like the Oaks who were all chopped to the same size in the Trees) but conservatives call that socialism and/or communism. They want everyone to fend for themselves, the weak die out while the strong survive, keeping the government out of our business, while the left want everyone to pay into a plan where everyone has the same medical opportunities (ideally.)
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been paying for their "universal care" for my entire career! LOL


Me too, Cyg! That's why I'm still on the fence about the whole thing...that and the waiting until you die bit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ermmm I might/prob will get slammed for this...im with the dems

saying that considering my country is 1millionth the size of yours...its a totally different situation
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it is just you and me on the Dem side in this neighborhood. There are a few of us that are neither and both, but generally speaking we are the minority within these walls.

You should'a been around in the fall of last year. Blood was flyin! It was a lot of fun.

Oh, and since the Obama phenomenon they say that the majority of people are now not Republicans. Not necessarily Democrat, but no longer on the Wrong...er, Right.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will still never understand american politics...but to me the government deserves to treat everyone the same...was gonna say something else but something else i need to know


you talk about welfare...now this will be the same as our income support I gather which comes off the tax of people working....does your government ever threaten to stop the welfare if it shows they are not looking for employment..?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about that. I think so, but someone else might know for sure. I know that you have to do like 2 interviews per week if you are getting Unemployment payments (from being laid off from a job) but not sure about the Welfare system.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why this is so hotly contested here in America Schu.. I dont know how people are in Scotland, but here in America.. there are a lot of deadbeat, lazy people who want to blame their problems on other people. and it has nothing to do with political affliation, there are a lot of hardworking democrats out there I just think Democrats tend to be softer on social issues, which is not all bad.. The problem is the people that actually need the help suffer because of the lazy worthless people in this country.
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what we're trying to do here is the folk that dont want to get a job...they dont get their money...so far no one has far as i know have had their money stopped..but they have to go to interviews and such to prove their looking for work...

then again we've under 6 million population..so as I said it's a completely different situation
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