Is Hell a bad place?

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:03 am

I?ve been thinking abut this lately......and sorry to all the religious folk here that might take offence......but is Hell really a place where the ?sinners? get punished? I mean the Devil relishes in getting people to commit sins, so when they go to hell why do they get punished? Surely Satan is happy that ?we? have sinned and therefore should actually reward us when go to Hell. Maybe the ?sinners? actually live the rest of eternity drinking, smoking and shagging everything that moves instead of shovelling piles of shit or burning in an eternal fire.....

Just a thought....

Zivo · Post by **Zivo** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:18 am

Interesting angle. I wonder what kind of music is in Hell? Barry Manilow?

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:19 am

that's only if your there to get punished

.....and thankfully only one of your pics worked....plzzzzzzzz dont fix them...

Zivo · Post by **Zivo** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:21 am

Just some fire, hon. Nothing to be frightened of

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:22 am

okai that's cool then...well actually it's not cuz it's hot....

*Lifesonite · Post by *Lifesonite » Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:54 am

Yes, you ged punished there. And right now hell is American Idol. They're doing all Barry Manilow songs

Panacea · Post by **Panacea** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:26 pm

schuette wrote:I?ve been thinking abut this lately......and sorry to all the religious folk here that might take offence......but is Hell really a place where the ?sinners? get punished? I mean the Devil relishes in getting people to commit sins, so when they go to hell why do they get punished? Surely Satan is happy that ?we? have sinned and therefore should actually reward us when go to Hell. Maybe the ?sinners? actually live the rest of eternity drinking, smoking and shagging everything that moves instead of shovelling piles of shit or burning in an eternal fire.....

Just a thought....

I'm thinking maybe the Devil isn't necessarily in charge there--perhaps he's being punished too? Also, they say that misery loves company, so perhaps if he's being punished he'd want everyone else there to be punished also. If you put crayfish in a bucket, and one tries to crawl out, another one will reach up and pull it back down into the bucket. Perhaps it's like that?

*Lifesonite wrote:Yes, you ged punished there. And right now hell is American Idol. They're doing all Barry Manilow songs

LOL!!!

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:17 pm

Panacea wrote:
Just a thought....

I'm thinking maybe the Devil isn't necessarily in charge there--perhaps he's being punished too? Also, they say that misery loves company, so perhaps if he's being punished he'd want everyone else there to be punished also. If you put crayfish in a bucket, and one tries to crawl out, another one will reach up and pull it back down into the bucket. Perhaps it's like that?

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your absolutely right pan, at least form what i was taught, when The Christ spent 3 days in hell before rising it is said that he took with him the keys to the abyss, so He has the doorkey, He is in charge, just as everything else is His

Xanadu · Post by **Xanadu** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:21 pm

School sucks

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:07 pm

you don't learn that sort of thing is school , i learned through my own reading and the like

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:20 am

Sir Myghin wrote:your absolutely right pan, at least form what i was taught, when The Christ spent 3 days in hell before rising it is said that he took with him the keys to the abyss, so He has the doorkey, He is in charge, just as everything else is His

who was in charge of Hell before Christ was born?

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:55 pm

i don't know but my knowledge is Satan was not so much made a ruler as condemned as all others are

Mr. Potatoe Head · Post by **Mr. Potatoe Head** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:21 pm

Perhaps there is part of that intellengence still alive today, sort of advanced mingled genitics crossing all races. Just to put yet another twist
towards an idea that ,who knows for sure? mens agitat molem A mind informs the mass. (Used by Virgle in a pantheistic sense of the world; often applied to an unwieldy, dull-looking person.) Of course I'm talking about good and bad here (not to get off the gnawing and gnashing of the mind, Shu) Religion is good that it brings people together, unfortunately there are to many concepts towards worship, most people neglecting the whole idea of love. I don't mean to say that people don't love it's just that they are living in a box so to speak thier own worlds with spouses, Childen, Friends etc...The problem is to many opinions and love hasn't yet crossed boarders to an higher understanding. Everyone will say; it's just not that easy! Sometimes the most simplest terms are the best. Then again another twist that you all probably know that not all our minds are alike and we could explore the merits of hitler and the enviorment so if your going to let your mind expand all options are viable because some of those intelectual beings could be your neighbor. Watch out and wear your lead linded cap to bed tonight. Think miracles happen everyday more so than times past because there are more of us and shit happens everyday, more so! I'm living in the twlight zone, fruit loops are the color of my life! Reciep for a good dream; muscle work out with an extreme sweat bath, bbq, 4 beers, chocolate ice cream with chocolate syrup and a banana. That's is how I feel about religion, at least today.

I'm a bit touched don't know why but you won't see me starting any motorcycle races.

See what you made me go and do now Shu? Opening my mind giving an opinion not wanting to be anybodys instructor but my own.

Perhaps there is part of that intelligence still alive today, sort of advanced mingled genetics crossing all races. Just to put yet another twist towards an idea that, who knows for sure? mens agitat molem A mind informs the mass. (Used by Virgle in a pantheistic sense of the world; often applied to an unwieldy, dull-looking person.) Of course I'm talking about good and bad here (not to get off the gnawing and gnashing of the mind, Shu) Religion is good that it brings people together, unfortunately there are to many concepts towards worship, most people neglecting the whole idea of love. I don't mean to say that people don't love it's just that they are living in a box so to speak their own worlds with spouses, Children, Friends etc...The problem is to many opinions and love hasn't yet crossed boarders to an higher understanding. Everyone will say; it's just not that easy! Sometimes the simplest terms are the best. Then again another twist that you all probably know that not all our minds are alike and we could explore the merits of Hitler and the environment so if your going to let your mind expand all options are viable because some of those intellectual beings could be your neighbor. Watch out and wear your lead lined cap to bed tonight. Think miracles happen everyday more so than times past because there are more of us and shit happens everyday, more so! I'm living in the twilight zone, fruit loops are the color of my life! Recipe for a good dream; muscle work out with an extreme sweat bath, bbq, 4 beers, chocolate ice cream with chocolate syrup and a banana. That?s how I feel about religion, at least today. I'm a bit touched don't know why but you won't see me starting any motorcycle races.

See what you made me go and do now Shu? Opening my mind giving an opinion not wanting to be anybodys instructor but my own.

I just came back in to correct the spelling seeing I'm learning more and more each and everyday. I've decided to just enjoy nature and leave all the nonsense in life for others to be concerned about, not Me anymore.

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Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 5:53 pm

heheh thats awesome potato rant on old man!

Mr. Potatoe Head · Post by **Mr. Potatoe Head** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 6:13 am

glad you liked it me sir

To plead the organic causation of a religious state of mind, then, in refutation of its claim to possess superior spiritual value, is quite illogical and arbitrary, unless one have already worked out in advance some psycho-physical theory connecting spiritual values in general with determinate sorts of physiological change. Otherwise none of our thoughts and feelings . . . could retain any value as revelations of the truth, for every one of them without exception flows from the state of their possessor?s body at the time