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awip2062 wrote:I'll post pictures of mine again later.
nobody had better take THAT statement out of context... :-D
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ElfDude wrote:
awip2062 wrote:I'll post pictures of mine again later.
nobody had better take THAT statement out of context... :-D
You show me you...oh nevermind...thats an old joke.
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LOL You guys.
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About six months back, a friend played the original version of The Eternal Idol for me, with Ray Gillen on vocals.

It was phenomenal, probably one of the top 25 or 50 metal albums from the '80s that I've ever heard (and the '80s were a great time to be a metalhead). Ray was an amazing vocalist. It's too bad Iommi had to go with Tony Martin over Ray. I imagine the dark years of Sabbath between '85-'95 would have been better with him at the mic.

But that was not to be. Iommi had a drinking problem at the time, and I gather he didn't choose Martin over Gillen, so much as the band dissolved when he wasn't able to pay them. Those demos have the best Black Sabbath lineup since The Mob Rules. Gillen is on vocals. Singer is on drums. Bob Daisley (Ozzy Osbourne/Uriah Heep) is on bass, and Jeff Nichols is on keys. They didnt leave for the money so much as they left because there was none. A man's gotta eat.

I really wish Sabbath would release the Ray Gillen sessions, but it seems like a pipedream. They deserve a wider release, as Ray Gillen is probably the most underrated singer in the history of rock music. He died in his prime, and his body of work is unfortunately short.
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I enjoyed Ray's vocals, but I prefer RJD. Just my personal preference.

Daisley, however, is one of my top fav. bassists.
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I preferred Ozzy...think I've said that before though :-D
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Yes, and that era rocks too. It was Ozzy with Sab that got me into metal. I can't dis that era at all.
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I'll agree they did their best work with Ozzy, but I think it was his luck of happening to be with a trio of very gifted and compatable musicians as they hit their prime. Ozzy wrote none of the music on those early albums, and only the scarcest portion of the lyrics (most were by Geezer).

Ozzy can't really sing either, but I'll give him one scrap of credit: his voice is very high and shrieking, which is the perfect contrast to that low and rumbling sound of Iommi and Butler
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you dont need to have a good singing voice to be a great singer...well I think that anyway :-D
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He may not have vocal talent, but he was just what they needed at the time. I think it was more the way he fronted the band than anything that worked for them, although the vox fit perfectly, yes.
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schuette wrote:you dont need to have a good singing voice to be a great singer...well I think that anyway :-D
I'll be certain to employ earplugs after you drink that third pint on "Kareoke Night." ;)
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lucky for you I dont do kareoke :lol:
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I have to agree with Schu you don't have to have a good voice to be a good vocalist. I mean, this will get me in trouble with my mom, but....think about Bob Dylan. *hides from her mom and her mom's wrath due to the "dissin" of The Poet*
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Yo t, I'll watch . . .er, I mean cover your backside on this one. I think Dylan is a waste of ear power too. Bring it on momma in law! LOL
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Dylan sings like crap...but he's one of favourite singers :-D
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