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Big Blue Owl
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Comrade:Big Blue Owl wrote:It's too bad we couldn't have had 4 or 8 more years of Bush.
I'll take a waterboarding 'scandal' or two over this administration's
top-down corruption any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Chairman Zero fires an Inspector General because he was "unstable?"...
Have you ever seen Chairman Zero's spokesman (Gibbs) finish a
complete sentence without stammering?
There's some irony. LOL
Talk to you later Comrade...I must pick my shovel back up and resume
the peoples' work.
Don't start none...won't be none.
Incredible.....
With the withdrawal of allied troops from Iraqi cities, George W. Bush's
(and our brave military and allies') victory in Iraq is complete, but not
A WORD of gratitude or praise for him for what he accomplished has been
uttered in the mainstream media.
What a disgrace.
WAKE UP, YOU MORONS.
On a lighter note - it's almost the weekend, comrades!
Yay.
With the withdrawal of allied troops from Iraqi cities, George W. Bush's
(and our brave military and allies') victory in Iraq is complete, but not
A WORD of gratitude or praise for him for what he accomplished has been
uttered in the mainstream media.
What a disgrace.
WAKE UP, YOU MORONS.
On a lighter note - it's almost the weekend, comrades!
Yay.
Don't start none...won't be none.
The prelude to the "response" below, from Colonel Bud Day, Medal of
Honor recipient - P.O.W. Survivor - reads:
"I didn't expect to be reminded of my treatment some 36 years ago on
this holiday weekend, but our politicians find it worthy to ignore what
some have tried to recount to them; who have actually been there."
*************************************************************
"I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967.... A SQ Commander.
After I returned in 1973.. I published 2 books that dealt a lot with "real
torture" in Hanoi .
Our make believe president is branding our country as a bunch of
torturers - when he has no idea of what torture is.
As for me.. I was put through a mock execution because I would not
respond...pistol whipped on the head...Same event a couple of days
later...then hung by my feet all day.
I escaped, and got re-captured a couple of weeks later. I got shot and
recaptured. Being shot was okay...what happened after was not.
They marched me to Vinh...They put me in the rope trick...almost pulled
my arms out of the sockets. They beat me on the head with a little
wooden rod until my eyes were swelled shut and my unshot, unbroken
hand to a pulp.
Next day they hung me by the arms...and rebroke my right wrist...wiping
out the nerves in my arms that control the hands...It rolled my fingers up
into a ball. I was only left the slightest movement of my L forefinger, so I
started answering with some incredible lies.
They sent me to Hanoi - strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of a truck.
In Hanoi....on my knees...the rope trick again. Beaten by a big fool while
in leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up--at the Zoo.
Got a really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events...I could see my knee bone thru the
kneeling holes.
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo. I was the Senior Officer
of a large building, so because of escape..they started a mass torture of
all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969..they started beating me with a car fan belt. In
first 2 days I took over 300 strokes..then stopped counting because I
never thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a non-existent
part in the escape. This went on for at least 3 days.
On my knees..fan belting..they cut open my scrotum with fan belt stroke,
and opened up both knee holes again. My fanny looked like hamburger.
I could not lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the escape..and that my
2 roommates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again with 3, 6 or 9 strokes of the fan belt
every day from about July 11 or 12th..to 14 October 1969.
I continued to refuse to lie about my roommates again."
*************************************************************
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president has declared to
the world that we ( U.S. ) are a bunch of torturers.. Thus, it will be okay
to torture us next time when they capture us....because "that is what the
U.S. does."
Our make-believe president is a know-nothing fool who thinks that
pouring a little water on someone's face, or hanging a pair of womens'
pants over an Arabs head - is TORTURE.
He is a meathead.
I just talked to M.O.H. holder Leo Thorsness (who was also in my SQ in
jail, as was John McCain) and we agree that McCain does not speak for
the POW group when he claims that Abu Ghraib was torture - or that "waterboarding"
is torture.
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad-mouthing our
great country are a disgrace to the United States.
Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity. He is free to use it to point out
the stupidity of the claims that waterboarding ...which has no after-
effect... is torture.
If it got those Arabs to cough up the story about how they planned the
attack on the twin towers in NYC... hurrah for the guy who poured the water.
Respectfully,
Col. Bud Day, M.O.H.R., USAF
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a retired U.S.
Air Force Colonel and Command Pilot who served during the Vietnam War.
He is often cited as being the most decorated U.S. service member since
General Douglas MacArthur; having received some 70 decorations, a
majority for actions in combat.
Day is a recipient of the U.S. Medal of Honor.
Honor recipient - P.O.W. Survivor - reads:
"I didn't expect to be reminded of my treatment some 36 years ago on
this holiday weekend, but our politicians find it worthy to ignore what
some have tried to recount to them; who have actually been there."
*************************************************************
"I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967.... A SQ Commander.
After I returned in 1973.. I published 2 books that dealt a lot with "real
torture" in Hanoi .
Our make believe president is branding our country as a bunch of
torturers - when he has no idea of what torture is.
As for me.. I was put through a mock execution because I would not
respond...pistol whipped on the head...Same event a couple of days
later...then hung by my feet all day.
I escaped, and got re-captured a couple of weeks later. I got shot and
recaptured. Being shot was okay...what happened after was not.
They marched me to Vinh...They put me in the rope trick...almost pulled
my arms out of the sockets. They beat me on the head with a little
wooden rod until my eyes were swelled shut and my unshot, unbroken
hand to a pulp.
Next day they hung me by the arms...and rebroke my right wrist...wiping
out the nerves in my arms that control the hands...It rolled my fingers up
into a ball. I was only left the slightest movement of my L forefinger, so I
started answering with some incredible lies.
They sent me to Hanoi - strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of a truck.
In Hanoi....on my knees...the rope trick again. Beaten by a big fool while
in leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up--at the Zoo.
Got a really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events...I could see my knee bone thru the
kneeling holes.
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo. I was the Senior Officer
of a large building, so because of escape..they started a mass torture of
all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969..they started beating me with a car fan belt. In
first 2 days I took over 300 strokes..then stopped counting because I
never thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a non-existent
part in the escape. This went on for at least 3 days.
On my knees..fan belting..they cut open my scrotum with fan belt stroke,
and opened up both knee holes again. My fanny looked like hamburger.
I could not lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the escape..and that my
2 roommates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again with 3, 6 or 9 strokes of the fan belt
every day from about July 11 or 12th..to 14 October 1969.
I continued to refuse to lie about my roommates again."
*************************************************************
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president has declared to
the world that we ( U.S. ) are a bunch of torturers.. Thus, it will be okay
to torture us next time when they capture us....because "that is what the
U.S. does."
Our make-believe president is a know-nothing fool who thinks that
pouring a little water on someone's face, or hanging a pair of womens'
pants over an Arabs head - is TORTURE.
He is a meathead.
I just talked to M.O.H. holder Leo Thorsness (who was also in my SQ in
jail, as was John McCain) and we agree that McCain does not speak for
the POW group when he claims that Abu Ghraib was torture - or that "waterboarding"
is torture.
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad-mouthing our
great country are a disgrace to the United States.
Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity. He is free to use it to point out
the stupidity of the claims that waterboarding ...which has no after-
effect... is torture.
If it got those Arabs to cough up the story about how they planned the
attack on the twin towers in NYC... hurrah for the guy who poured the water.
Respectfully,
Col. Bud Day, M.O.H.R., USAF
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a retired U.S.
Air Force Colonel and Command Pilot who served during the Vietnam War.
He is often cited as being the most decorated U.S. service member since
General Douglas MacArthur; having received some 70 decorations, a
majority for actions in combat.
Day is a recipient of the U.S. Medal of Honor.
Don't start none...won't be none.
PONDERABLE...
Michelle's en fuego today!
The Bankrupt Party of Porkulus
by Michelle Malkin
Let there be no doubt:
Democrats are the party with two ideas: borrow and spend. The only
vigorous internal debate on the left revolves around two questions:
How much and how much more?
Even as the first trillion-dollar stimulus craters, the debt-o-crats are
floating yet another grand act of generational theft to create the illusion
of jumpstarting the economy.
Call it Spawn of Spendulus. Return of the Porkulus Beast. Crap
Sandwich Redux.
White House economic adviser Laura D'Andrea Tyson told an international
economic conference: "We should be planning on a contingency basis for
a second round of stimulus." Team Obama flack Robert Gibbs says the
president isn't "ruling anything out, but at the same time he's not ruling
anything in."
Despite the inconvenient fact that less than 10 percent of the initial
stimulus has been spent (or misspent), congressional Democrats
remain "open" to the idea of digging a deeper fiscal hole for your children
and grandchildren.
Porkulus One was a massive payoff to special interests and political
constituencies (and dead people!) disguised as a job generator. A
General Accounting Office analysis this week revealed that stimulus
dollars allocated to states and localities are not being spent on what
they're supposed to be spent on.
States are making up their own criteria for spending. The most
economically distressed parts of the country are getting shortchanged.
School and transportation bureaucrats are using the money to preserve
their own jobs instead of "stimulating" others. And assessments of the
stimulative effect of the package are a joke.
As House Republicans noted: "The administration has essentially 'rigged
the game' of reporting the tangible effects of its stimulus program by
creating an immeasurable metric -- 'jobs created or saved' -- that no one
can disprove."
Irked by the mounting evidence of stimulus failure, Vice President Joe
Biden griped at a spending event on Thursday:
"This ain't about swimming pools and Frisbee parks and polar bear
exhibits. This is about stuff that not only passed the test of jobs, but
passed the smell test. ... All the talk about how we're gonna waste all this
money, that's a dog that ain't barked yet. And it's not gonna bark on my
watch."
Yet last month, Sen. Tom Coburn exposed 100 smelly stimulus projects
worth $5.5 billion, including $3.4 million for a wildlife "eco-passage" in
Florida to take animals safely under a busy roadway; nearly $10 million
to renovate an unused train station; and a $2 million "weatherization"
contract awarded to a Nevada nonprofit recently fired for doing the same
type of work.
After failing to recognize the inevitable and inexorable political forces that
turned the stimulus into the mother of all Beltway boondoggles, media
outlets are now playing catch up:
USA Today reported this week that "counties that supported Obama last
year have reaped twice as much money per person from the
administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that
voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain."
ABC News reported this week that the failed stimulus tracking website run
by the White House, Recovery.gov, will get an additional $18 million
taxpayer-funded injection to support a "redesign." The Washington
Examiner's David Freddoso points out that the contract was awarded to a
Maryland firm whose donors have contributed $19,000 to Maryland's
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.
The Washington Times reported this week that "as much as $16.1 million
from the stimulus program is going to save the San Francisco Bay area
habitat of, among other things, the endangered Salt Marsh Harvest
Mouse" in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's backyard.
And despite all the initial focus on basic infrastructure needs, Land Line
magazine reported this week that "even with federal stimulus spending
that put shovels in the ground on new infrastructure projects, analysts
predict an overall decline of 4.3 percent on infrastructure in 2009."
The same underhanded, transparency-defying, earmark-stuffing process
that marked the porkulus beast is dominating every other pricey piece of
legislation hurtling through the Democrat-led Congress.
The Waxman-Markey "cap and trade" bill that passed the House two
weeks ago contained bribes galore -- including a $50 million hurricane
research center for Florida Democrat Alan Grayson and a $3.5 billion
economic development "sweetener" package for Ohio Democrat Marcy
Kaptur.
The current health care takeover proposals feature a crucial payoff to Big
Labor -- a golden exemption from any tax on union members' generous
health care benefits.
The friends and patrons of Obama may be making out like bandits.
But for everyone else, the Democrats' ideological bankruptcy comes at a
nauseatingly steep price.
Michelle's en fuego today!
The Bankrupt Party of Porkulus
by Michelle Malkin
Let there be no doubt:
Democrats are the party with two ideas: borrow and spend. The only
vigorous internal debate on the left revolves around two questions:
How much and how much more?
Even as the first trillion-dollar stimulus craters, the debt-o-crats are
floating yet another grand act of generational theft to create the illusion
of jumpstarting the economy.
Call it Spawn of Spendulus. Return of the Porkulus Beast. Crap
Sandwich Redux.
White House economic adviser Laura D'Andrea Tyson told an international
economic conference: "We should be planning on a contingency basis for
a second round of stimulus." Team Obama flack Robert Gibbs says the
president isn't "ruling anything out, but at the same time he's not ruling
anything in."
Despite the inconvenient fact that less than 10 percent of the initial
stimulus has been spent (or misspent), congressional Democrats
remain "open" to the idea of digging a deeper fiscal hole for your children
and grandchildren.
Porkulus One was a massive payoff to special interests and political
constituencies (and dead people!) disguised as a job generator. A
General Accounting Office analysis this week revealed that stimulus
dollars allocated to states and localities are not being spent on what
they're supposed to be spent on.
States are making up their own criteria for spending. The most
economically distressed parts of the country are getting shortchanged.
School and transportation bureaucrats are using the money to preserve
their own jobs instead of "stimulating" others. And assessments of the
stimulative effect of the package are a joke.
As House Republicans noted: "The administration has essentially 'rigged
the game' of reporting the tangible effects of its stimulus program by
creating an immeasurable metric -- 'jobs created or saved' -- that no one
can disprove."
Irked by the mounting evidence of stimulus failure, Vice President Joe
Biden griped at a spending event on Thursday:
"This ain't about swimming pools and Frisbee parks and polar bear
exhibits. This is about stuff that not only passed the test of jobs, but
passed the smell test. ... All the talk about how we're gonna waste all this
money, that's a dog that ain't barked yet. And it's not gonna bark on my
watch."
Yet last month, Sen. Tom Coburn exposed 100 smelly stimulus projects
worth $5.5 billion, including $3.4 million for a wildlife "eco-passage" in
Florida to take animals safely under a busy roadway; nearly $10 million
to renovate an unused train station; and a $2 million "weatherization"
contract awarded to a Nevada nonprofit recently fired for doing the same
type of work.
After failing to recognize the inevitable and inexorable political forces that
turned the stimulus into the mother of all Beltway boondoggles, media
outlets are now playing catch up:
USA Today reported this week that "counties that supported Obama last
year have reaped twice as much money per person from the
administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that
voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain."
ABC News reported this week that the failed stimulus tracking website run
by the White House, Recovery.gov, will get an additional $18 million
taxpayer-funded injection to support a "redesign." The Washington
Examiner's David Freddoso points out that the contract was awarded to a
Maryland firm whose donors have contributed $19,000 to Maryland's
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.
The Washington Times reported this week that "as much as $16.1 million
from the stimulus program is going to save the San Francisco Bay area
habitat of, among other things, the endangered Salt Marsh Harvest
Mouse" in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's backyard.
And despite all the initial focus on basic infrastructure needs, Land Line
magazine reported this week that "even with federal stimulus spending
that put shovels in the ground on new infrastructure projects, analysts
predict an overall decline of 4.3 percent on infrastructure in 2009."
The same underhanded, transparency-defying, earmark-stuffing process
that marked the porkulus beast is dominating every other pricey piece of
legislation hurtling through the Democrat-led Congress.
The Waxman-Markey "cap and trade" bill that passed the House two
weeks ago contained bribes galore -- including a $50 million hurricane
research center for Florida Democrat Alan Grayson and a $3.5 billion
economic development "sweetener" package for Ohio Democrat Marcy
Kaptur.
The current health care takeover proposals feature a crucial payoff to Big
Labor -- a golden exemption from any tax on union members' generous
health care benefits.
The friends and patrons of Obama may be making out like bandits.
But for everyone else, the Democrats' ideological bankruptcy comes at a
nauseatingly steep price.
Don't start none...won't be none.
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