Christmas

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:47 am

As I sit here typing I'm also watching them put up the Christmas decorations in the square outside the cafe...
Halloween hasnae even been yet!!!

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:14 am

Argh! I know, it sucks! Let us enjoy where we are in time instead of forcing us ahead!

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:58 am

Don't worry about it - they'll be starting summer holiday ads in about three weeks

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:28 pm

Don't worry, its just the over commercialization of a holiday the because of the industries moved to heathen gift day from its original roots.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:56 pm

Sir Myghin wrote:Don't worry, its just the over commercialization of a holiday the because of the industries moved to heathen gift day from its original roots.

Of course you mean the druidic holiday that the christian church took over

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:31 pm

If the druids following a lunar callender there would be a direct correlation between the stars creation and the Saviour

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:24 pm

The 25th of December was used as a Pagan festival as it was thought to be the winter solstice (the actual correct date of December 21st was not established until much later). The date was in use long before the supposed birth of Christ and was adopted by the Catholic church in order to forcefull stamp out any other forms of worship - the same way that many early churches in Britain were built on the sites of pagan worship.

Sir Myghin · Post by **Sir Myghin** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:51 pm

but can you prove to me that the Christ wasn't born on that day?

schuette · Post by **schuette** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:15 am

can you prove he was...

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:02 am

Well, Dweeb, the shepherds were in their fields watching over their sheep at night (See Luke 2). This would not have been occuring on the winter solstice.

No, we cannot prove when he was born, date wise. Chances our we have our BC/AD off as well. In fact, it is more than likely we do.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:11 am

Especially when the differences between the Julian and Gregorian calenders are considered.

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:16 am

And, truthfully, it doesn't matter when the holiday is.

Slaine mac Roth · Post by **Slaine mac Roth** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:34 am

I think the non-Christians around the time the festival was introduced might have disagreed

awip2062 · Post by **awip2062** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:39 am

The heirarchy of the Catholic Church, yes, I agree with you they would have.

But in reality, do we need to celebrate it on any one day? No. Since we do not know when He was born, we can celebrate it on any day. In fact, we don't need to celebrate it at all.

minime · Post by **minime** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:02 pm

Or on the other hand, celebrate the spirit of the day every day