Guess Who is Endorsing Kerry *serious political stuff*
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That's what we wanted you to think.awip2062 wrote:First of all, the white man may have brought Christianity to this continent, but it is not the white man's religion. Having studied many religions, it is the one with a worldview that acctually works. As I see it, anyway.
Don't tell me about rock and roll I'm out there in the clubs and on the streets and I'm living it! I am rock and roll!
But simply by bringing up the fact that YOU have a dad, and HE has a dad, when I don't, that hurts my feelings and so you shouldn't do that. And you even went so far as to brag about him too. 
You are just plain mean. You prove it by bringing it up again.
And yes, if you do not have a mom, you are special, Elfie. And we should be very careful and make sure we do not hurt your feelings. There, there.
You are just plain mean. You prove it by bringing it up again. And yes, if you do not have a mom, you are special, Elfie. And we should be very careful and make sure we do not hurt your feelings. There, there.
Onward and Upward!
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Uh-oh. In THIS neighborhood the sign theft is bi-partisan and appears to be the work of teenagers. We can tell the conservative ones who steal Kerry signs are particularyly evil because they drive an SUV...
http://www.kmsp.com/news/investigators/ ... sp?1636282
http://www.kmsp.com/news/investigators/ ... sp?1636282
Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?
Kerry's 11 most recent positions on Iraq for him...
1. October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq.
Kerry
and Edwards voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing the use
of
force against Iraq. (H. J. Res. 114, CQ Vote #237: Passed 77-23: R
48-1; D
29-21; I 0-1, 10/11/02, Kerry Voted Yea)
2. April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began,
But
Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His
Pledge And
Called For "Regime Change In The United States." (Glen Johnson,
"Democrats
On The Stump Plot Their War Rhetoric," The Boston Globe, 3/11/03; Glen
Johnson, "Kerry Says Us Needs Its Own 'Regime Change,'" The Boston
Globe,
4/3/03)
3. May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President's
Action In Iraq. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "I said at the time I would have
preferred
if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the
right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made
the
decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm
him."
(ABC News, Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Columbia, SC,
5/3/03)
4. September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion
Supplemental
Would Be "Irresponsible." Doyle McManus (LA Times): "If that amendment
does
not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?" Kerry: "I don't
think
any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly
leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and
running. That's irresponsible." (CBS's "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)
5. October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental
Supporting
Our Troops. (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I
0-1,
10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay)
6. January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard
Dean In
The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate. CHRIS
MATTHEWS:
"Do you think you belong to that category of candidates who more or
less are
unhappy with this war, the way it's been fought, along with General
Clark,
along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in companionship politically
on
the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt?
Are
you one of the anti-war candidates?" KERRY: "I am -- Yes, in the sense
that
I don't believe the president took us to war as he should have, yes,
absolutely." (MSNBC's "Hardball," 1/6/04)
7. August 2004: In Response To President's Question About How He Would
Have
Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would
Still
Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "Yes, I would
have
voted for the authority. I believe it's the right authority for a
president
to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout
this
campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the
way
President Bush has." (CNN's "Inside Politics," 8/9/04)
8. September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At
The
Wrong Time." "Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry on Monday
called
the invasion of Iraq 'the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong
time'
and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in his first White House
term." (Patricia Wilson, " Kerry on Iraq: Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong
Time", Reuters, 9/6/04)
9. September 2004: Kerry Says There Were No Circumstances Under Which
We
Should Have Gone To War, But He Was Still Right To Vote For It. IMUS:
"Do
you think there are any circumstances we should have gone to war in
Iraq,
any?" KERRY: "Not under the current circumstances, no. There are none
that I
see. I voted based on weapons of mass destruction. The President
distorted
that, and I've said that. I mean, look, I can't be clearer. But I think
it
was the right vote based on what Saddam Hussein had done, and I think
it was
the right thing to do to hold him accountable. I've said a hundred
times,
there was a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. The president
chose
the wrong way. Can't be more direct than that." (MSNBC's "Imus In The
Morning," 9/15/04)
10. Kerry Said That The Removal Of Saddam Hussein Has Left America
"Less
Secure." KERRY: "Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who deserves his
own
special place in hell. But that was not, that was not in and of itself,
a
reason to go to war. The satisfaction - The satisfaction that we take
in his
downfall does not hide this fact: we have traded a dictator for a chaos
that
has left America less secure." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At New York
University, New York, NY, 9/20/04)
11. Kerry On Whether The Iraq War Was Worth It: "It Depends On The
Outcome."
DIANE SAWYER: "Was the war in Iraq worth it?" KERRY: "We should not
have
gone to war knowing the information that we know today." SAWYER: "So it
was
not worth it?" KERRY: "We should not - it depends on the outcome
ultimately,
and that depends on the leadership." (ABC's "Good Morning America,"
9/29/04)
1. October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq.
Kerry
and Edwards voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing the use
of
force against Iraq. (H. J. Res. 114, CQ Vote #237: Passed 77-23: R
48-1; D
29-21; I 0-1, 10/11/02, Kerry Voted Yea)
2. April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began,
But
Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His
Pledge And
Called For "Regime Change In The United States." (Glen Johnson,
"Democrats
On The Stump Plot Their War Rhetoric," The Boston Globe, 3/11/03; Glen
Johnson, "Kerry Says Us Needs Its Own 'Regime Change,'" The Boston
Globe,
4/3/03)
3. May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President's
Action In Iraq. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "I said at the time I would have
preferred
if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the
right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made
the
decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm
him."
(ABC News, Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Columbia, SC,
5/3/03)
4. September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion
Supplemental
Would Be "Irresponsible." Doyle McManus (LA Times): "If that amendment
does
not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?" Kerry: "I don't
think
any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly
leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and
running. That's irresponsible." (CBS's "Face the Nation," 9/14/03)
5. October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental
Supporting
Our Troops. (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I
0-1,
10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay)
6. January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard
Dean In
The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate. CHRIS
MATTHEWS:
"Do you think you belong to that category of candidates who more or
less are
unhappy with this war, the way it's been fought, along with General
Clark,
along with Howard Dean and not necessarily in companionship politically
on
the issue of the war with people like Lieberman, Edwards and Gephardt?
Are
you one of the anti-war candidates?" KERRY: "I am -- Yes, in the sense
that
I don't believe the president took us to war as he should have, yes,
absolutely." (MSNBC's "Hardball," 1/6/04)
7. August 2004: In Response To President's Question About How He Would
Have
Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would
Still
Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution. SEN. JOHN KERRY: "Yes, I would
have
voted for the authority. I believe it's the right authority for a
president
to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout
this
campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the
way
President Bush has." (CNN's "Inside Politics," 8/9/04)
8. September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At
The
Wrong Time." "Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry on Monday
called
the invasion of Iraq 'the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong
time'
and said his goal was to withdraw U.S. troops in his first White House
term." (Patricia Wilson, " Kerry on Iraq: Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong
Time", Reuters, 9/6/04)
9. September 2004: Kerry Says There Were No Circumstances Under Which
We
Should Have Gone To War, But He Was Still Right To Vote For It. IMUS:
"Do
you think there are any circumstances we should have gone to war in
Iraq,
any?" KERRY: "Not under the current circumstances, no. There are none
that I
see. I voted based on weapons of mass destruction. The President
distorted
that, and I've said that. I mean, look, I can't be clearer. But I think
it
was the right vote based on what Saddam Hussein had done, and I think
it was
the right thing to do to hold him accountable. I've said a hundred
times,
there was a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it. The president
chose
the wrong way. Can't be more direct than that." (MSNBC's "Imus In The
Morning," 9/15/04)
10. Kerry Said That The Removal Of Saddam Hussein Has Left America
"Less
Secure." KERRY: "Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who deserves his
own
special place in hell. But that was not, that was not in and of itself,
a
reason to go to war. The satisfaction - The satisfaction that we take
in his
downfall does not hide this fact: we have traded a dictator for a chaos
that
has left America less secure." (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At New York
University, New York, NY, 9/20/04)
11. Kerry On Whether The Iraq War Was Worth It: "It Depends On The
Outcome."
DIANE SAWYER: "Was the war in Iraq worth it?" KERRY: "We should not
have
gone to war knowing the information that we know today." SAWYER: "So it
was
not worth it?" KERRY: "We should not - it depends on the outcome
ultimately,
and that depends on the leadership." (ABC's "Good Morning America,"
9/29/04)
Onward and Upward!
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And ransacking the Bush/Cheney headquarters in Orlando.EndlesslyRocking wrote: Riiiiiiiiiight...the poor put upon conservatives are so decent and well behaved, while the unwashed liberals roam the streets burning the flag and urinating on the Constitution...puh-leeze!
http://www.local6.com/politics/3785861/detail.html
And shooting out the glass doors of the Bush/Cheney headquarters in Knoxville.
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/2 ... -1855r.htm
And firing a shot into a room containing 25 people at GOP headquarters in Huntington.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5901781/
But in all fairness, none of these reports make any mention of the perpetrators having poor personal hygiene practices...
Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?
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It continues...
And storm the Bush/Cheney Milwaukee headquarters.
http://www.wisgop.org/view.phtml?func=ch&lg=&id=83
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And storm the Bush/Cheney Milwaukee headquarters.
http://www.wisgop.org/view.phtml?func=ch&lg=&id=83
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"Beavis... we weren't talking about my mom! We were talking about how your name sounds like 'penis'!"Devil's Advocate wrote:After all the accusations of Kerry's "flip-flopping" I am amused by the echoing silence surrounding Rumsfeld this week.....
Oh, alright. If you want to change the subject I guess I'll respond...
What silence? He was all over the headlines. What were you hoping to hear, and from whom were you hoping to hear it?
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What I expect to hear is continuing - but now hypocritical - allegations of "flip-flopping" aimed at Kerry. I'm sure I won't be disappointed.
As for your series of links - I haven't wasted time responding to them because it's very obviously just selective reporting on your part. No-one doubts that the kind of thing you report occurs - but it's done equally by both sides.
As for your series of links - I haven't wasted time responding to them because it's very obviously just selective reporting on your part. No-one doubts that the kind of thing you report occurs - but it's done equally by both sides.