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CNN.com - Priest makes 'most honest confession' of his life - Jun 27, 2006


CNN.com - Priest makes 'most honest confession' of his life - Jun 27, 2006

If there was ever any need to confirm that the church will deny culpability for this abomination until the end of days, this will do it.

..."During the film, O'Grady details how he preyed on children, how the Diocese of Stockton, California, knew about the abuse, and how O'Grady claims church officials allowed him to abuse children for two decades by moving him from parish to parish instead of removing him from ministry."

..."In a deposition, Monsignor James Cain, one of O'Grady's superiors, tried to explain why he did not tell police about the earlier allegations.

"Certainly I knew the one in '76 took place but didn't put the two together," Cain said. "One was a girl -- inappropriate touching, the other was a boy. So I just didn't hook them up in my own mind." "

..."In a statement, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles called "Deliver Us From Evil" an "obvious anti-Church hit piece."

Archdiocese spokesman Tod Tamberg, who viewed the film prior to its debut, sent a statement saying it is "primarily based on anti-Church assertions by plaintiff's attorneys who stand to gain financially and on the self-serving comments of former priest O'Grady, a sick, twisted monster and, like most molesters, a master manipulator." "

::snort scoff:: Yeah, it's all about the money. It has nothing to do with this...

..."O'Grady said he started abusing children when he arrived in California in 1976 and spent time in the home of parishioners who had a 5-year old daughter named Ann."

..." "He was in here saying morning prayers, during the nighttime he's molesting my daughter," a tearful Bob Jyono said in the film. "Raping her," he continues, "not molesting her -- raping her. At 5 years old. How can that happen? That's just what he did." "

Those greedy bastids!!!


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Saturday, June 24, 2006

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She passed this along to me and I just about died laughing...

Winnepeg Herald, Manitoba Canada May 31, 2006

The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly.

Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.

"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. "He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left. Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?"

In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk."

Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.

"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. "They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though."

When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch videos of NASCAR races with the volume up full blast.

In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s.

"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said.

Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?"

In an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The President is determined to reach out," he said.


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Sunday, June 11, 2006

CNN.com - Molly Ivins: Now, back to the real?crisis - Jun 7, 2006



CNN.com - Molly Ivins: Now, back to the real?crisis - Jun 7, 2006

"...

I believe what we have here is a difference over moral values.

The Republicans are worried about the flag, gay marriage and the terrible burden of the estate tax on the rich. The rest of us are obviously unnecessarily worried about war, peace, the economy, the environment and civilization. Another reason to vote Republican -- they have a shorter list."

Now you see that? Someone who can make her point without personally eviscerating anyone. But as a result of that, she won't get any of the press. Sad, isn't it?


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Tuesday, June 06, 2006

CNN.com - Your e-mails:�Same-sex marriage debate - June 6, 2006



CNN.com - Your e-mails:Same-sex marriage debate - June 6, 2006:

"The amendment affects me because I consider myself, a woman, to have essential female qualities that contribute to the health and happiness of my husband and children. I am not interchangeable with a gay man.
Joni Stimpson, Columbia, Maryland"

"If homosexuals were allowed to legally marry this would affect me and the way I raise my children. I raise them to believe that right is right and wrong is wrong, and homosexuality is wrong. And yes, our laws are based on the Bible (study your American history). I am also raising my children in preparation for their own marriages, and you can't do that correctly if there are no standards. My son is being raised to be a good husband to his wife, and vice-versa for my daughters. Legalizing homosexual marriage would do nothing more than confuse the youth of today, who already have way too few positive role models.
Tammy, McKinney, Texas"

Can I say that these are representative of the two stupidest arguments in this whole wacked debate?

There is NOTHING intrinsically "feminine" or "masculine" that outweighs being a seriously crappy parent. If you're an intolerant bigot who is teaching her children to discriminate against people who don't conform to their personal moral code...then you can totally be replaced by a gay man and your children will be all the better for it. If you're a woman who looks the other way while your husband molests your children, a woman who beats her children, neglects your children etcetera ad nauseum then not only could you but you SHOULD be replaced by ANY AVAILABLE SANE HUMAN BEING. Regardless of race, creed, gender or sexual orientation.

And if I hear/read ONE MORE IDIOT give me the "laws based on the bible" crap my head is going to explode! The fact that your church supplies you with biased/inaccurate research doesn't make you right, it makes you a gullible lemming. Trust me, I was raised fundamentalist christian for the first 13 years of my life, I know how the system works. Everything that is not of the church is wicked and wrong. Well IT'S REALLY NOT!!! It's time for you people to use your brains for something beside holding your ears apart! The founders of this country were NOT christians, they were deists. The laws of this land were not based on the bible. Thomas Jefferson fought tooth and nail to make sure that the separation of church and state was absolute. The fact that christians have been whittling away at it since day one is a separate issue, which is what we are addressing here. You are trying to MAKE the laws of the land based on the bible NOW, which is totally against the precepts and intent of the original authors of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

Leave these poor people alone! Let them get married, have families, be happy, contributing members of society for crying out loud! Mind your own damn business.


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Sunday, May 28, 2006

ABC News: Top Veteran Official Joins Pentacle Debate



ABC News: Top Veteran Official Joins Pentacle Debate

"RENO, Nev. May 27, 2006 (AP)? Over the years, families have used religious symbols such as the Jewish Star of David, the Christian cross and the Islamic crescent and star to honor their loved ones on headstones and markers. For Sgt. Patrick Stewart's family, the symbol of choice was also from his religion: the Wiccan pentacle.

But of all the symbols and faiths recognized by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Wicca and its emblem a circle around a five-pointed star are not among them.

The department is reviewing a request to include the symbol, but when a decision will come is unclear.

That has angered many. The state's top veterans official, Tim Tetz, said he was "diligently pursuing" the matter with Gov. Kenny Guinn, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Rep. Jim Gibbons, R-Nev.

"Sergeant Stewart and his family deserve recognition for their contributions to our country," said Tetz, executive director of the Nevada Office of Veterans Services."

Now I'm not even a "military supporter" and I applaud this guy. Damn right!


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Friday, May 19, 2006

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I was going to just address this in the comments section but it's too big so...

"LOL! Remind me-- when was the last time you were arrested and threatened with being executed for being Wiccan in this country?

Any non-Christian religion in this country is not tolerated-- give me a break."

So it's only intolerance if you're being executed?????????

"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."
-- George W. Bush to ABCNEWS, June, 1999

Senate Republican joins
call to end military
accommodation of Wicca:

...During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, Sen. Strom Thurmond, R-S.C., submitted a statement decrying Wicca, a nature-based faith, as irreligious and saying it should not be accommodated by the military....

...The persecution of Brandi Blackbear began in the aftermath of the Columbine shootings. According to her complaint, she was targeted by school administrators in the spring of 1999 because of rumors that she had written a story "about an incident at school." (Blackbear is an aspiring fiction writer, with an interest in horror stories.) Her locker was searched and her private notebooks confiscated. School officials found a story involving a shooting on a school bus and promptly suspended her.

Ostracized and harassed by fellow students, Blackbear returned to school in the fall of 1999 and began a private study of Wicca. Within a few months, a teacher was hospitalized for a still unknown ailment, and Blackbear says she was blamed: An aptly named assistant principal, Charles Bushyhead, accused her of practicing Wicca, casting spells, and causing the hospitalization of the mysteriously ill teacher. According to the lawsuit, Bushyhead called Blackbear an immediate threat to the school and suspended her for another 15 days. ...

...This is what religious freedom means to some devout Americans: the freedom to practice "respectable" or "true" religions, not "counterfeit" religions like Wicca. If the accusations of witchcraft in Blackbear's case are outr?, the majoritarian religious fervor that punishes adherence to alternative faiths is common. It shapes disputes about official school prayers, which are usually challenged by people of minority faiths whose children are scorned and taunted by the majority. It surfaced recently in the response of the right-wing Family Research Council to an invocation by a Hindu priest offered in the U.S. Congress. "Our founders," proclaimed the council, "expected that Christianity--and no other religion--would receive support from the government, as long as that support did not violate people's consciences and their right to worship. They would have found utterly incredible the idea that all religions, including paganism, be treated with equal deference." ... (bolding mine)

Wiccans Offer Alternative to Boy Scouts
CNSNews.com ^ | October 31, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 10/31/2002 9:05:17 AM PST by H8DEMS

(CNSNews.com) - Frustrated by an unsuccessful campaign to achieve religious recognition from the Boy Scouts of America, a Seattle-based Wicca church has launched its own youth program, which is based on tolerance for different beliefs, including differences in sexual orientation.

SpiralScouts founder Pete 'Pathfinder' Davis believes that many of the things the Boy Scouts are doing are "socially inappropriate." He said he created to the SpiralScouts to "fill the void left by prejudicial treatment of other established children's programs."

America Gets Wise To The Wiccan Menace
An American Wiccan has filed a legal challenge against religious persecution from his divorce court. Apropos of nothing, Cale J. Bradford, the chief judge of the Marion Superior Court in Indiana banned the Wiccan Thomas Jones Jr. and his Wiccan ex-wife Tammie Bristol from exposing their 9 year-old son to "non-mainstream religious beliefs and rituals" such as Wicca. As Mr. Jones, who has "organized Pagan Pride Day events in Indianapolis," complained"

"This was done without either of us requesting it and at the judge's whim. It is upsetting to our son that he cannot celebrate holidays with us, including Yule, which is winter solstice, and Ostara, which is the spring equinox."

Way too many to list, just go read it...


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I was thinking about that post and really, you could come up with a long list of reasons to hate any nation or people group if you wanted to.
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awip2062 wrote:I was thinking about that post and really, you could come up with a long list of reasons to hate any nation or people group if you wanted to.
Seems like the greatest people in history have been hated. The more good they do, the more the opposition hates them.

We revere Abraham Lincoln in this country as one of the greatest presidents. When he was killed his approval rating was somewhere around 16%.

Heck, when I was in high school the kids who were the best students angered me. The hard part comes in taking an honest look at where the anger really comes from. I didn't like them because I perceived they were making me look bad. Truth was, if I looked bad I was doing it myself.

And like the wise Thomas Sowell pointed out (many pages ago in this thread)... their alternative to hating us would be to hate themselves.
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Sometimes I hate myself. I see just how icky I am on the inside and I hate that.
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awip2062 wrote:Sometimes I hate myself. I see just how icky I am on the inside and I hate that.
And that baffles the rest of us!
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What? That I am not perfect? ROFL
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That you see yourself that way when you've made something of yourself that the rest of us (at least a lot of us) look up to.
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But I will never be perfect. I will always have room to grow.
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You are so much better than I am kiddo.


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The thing I really like is that you both stand by me.

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