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Valentine's Bouquets -- Bad for the Environment

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:48 am
by awip2062
From the Telegraph:

By Nicole Martin
Last Updated: 1:53am GMT 10/02/2007

The Valentine's Day bouquet ? the gift that every woman in Britain will be waiting for next week ? has become the latest b?te noire among environmental campaigners.

Latest Government figures show that the flowers that make up the average bunch have flown 33,800 miles to reach Britain.

In the past three years, the amount of flowers imported from the Netherlands has fallen by 47 per cent to 94,000 tons, while those from Africa have risen 39 per cent to 17,000 tons.

Environmentalists warned that "flower miles" could have serious implications on climate change in terms of carbon dioxide emissions from aeroplanes.

Andrew Sims, the policy director of the New Economics Foundation, said: "There are plenty of flowers that grow in Britain in the winter and don't need to be hothoused.

"Air freighting flowers half way round the world contributes to global warming.

"You can argue the planes would be flying anyway but the amount of greenhouse gases pumped out depends on the weight of the cargo."

Vicky Hird, of Friends of the Earth, said: "We don't want to be killjoys because receiving flowers can be lovely but why not grow your own gift?"

The figures also revealed that imports of roses from Ethiopia have grown from zero to 130 tons a year since 2003.

Kenya is the second biggest exporter of flowers after the Netherlands, followed by Colombia and Spain.

In total, Britain imports more than ?315 million of flowers, with the typical Briton spending ?39 a year on them.

"That's very little when you think what we spend on CDs, coffee and even lipstick," said a spokesman for the Flowers and Plants Association.

He said the boom in Third World flowers would help poorer countries to build schools and boost the economy.

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:32 am
by ElfDude
So is there anything that isn't bad for the planet?

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:15 pm
by awip2062
There are those who think the one thing that would be best for the environment is the death of all humans. For example, one group attempting to get people to cause the extinction of their kind is The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. A quote from their homepage:


Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:44 am
by Kares4Rush
awip2062 wrote:There are those who think the one thing that would be best for the environment is the death of all humans. For example, one group attempting to get people to cause the extinction of their kind is The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. A quote from their homepage:


Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I remember when I was a kid the big talk was of the "population explosion" and people where limiting their families for the good of the planet and all but that's just rediculous!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:20 pm
by awip2062
People are still purporting and practicing that today.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:23 pm
by CygnusX1
I quit smoking....and THIS goes on??

somebody hand me a smoke. I just can't take this anymore. :roll:

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:37 pm
by ElfDude
Hey, Obama's a chain-smoker, why shouldn't you be?

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:02 pm
by CygnusX1
ElfDude wrote:Hey, Obama's a chain-smoker, why shouldn't you be?
'cuz it's not a pretty place to be. I can tell ya all about it.

glad I'm NOT one anymore, but not gonna grandstand about it.

it's the toughest thing I've ever had to do....

besides backyard-wrestle Sigette's brother. :-D

He gigged me and I tapped out. I was ROBBED and I want a rematch. :???:

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:12 am
by Big Blue Owl
That reminds me...I need a smoke :-D

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:27 am
by CygnusX1
Big Blue Owl wrote:That reminds me...I need a smoke :-D
smoke-em-if-ya-got-em bro.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:30 am
by Big Blue Owl
It's not worth it. 6 degrees F outside.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:03 am
by awip2062
Sorry you are relegated to the outside for smoking, BBO.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:06 am
by schuette
being relegated to the cold when your in a pub still angers me

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:09 am
by awip2062
I'm with ya! Smokers are second-class citizens now.

And now they are starting in on the fats...

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:14 am
by CygnusX1
awip2062 wrote:I'm with ya! Smokers are second-class citizens now.

And now they are starting in on the fats...
They're even going after people smoking in their CARS now.

They can impede traffic talking on a cell phone, but don't even THINK about lighting up....

What a joke.