Is Global Warming a Sin?

zepboy · Post by **zepboy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:10 pm

Hey, glad to know I can help you build your faith in something! LOL

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:29 am

Right on, buddy.

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:09 am

*rereads thread title*

Then the cows that produce methane are going to hell

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:10 am

Me wrote:I know some of you don't agree with climate change/global warming but there is a new datum in effect and updated because the reality is the oceans have risen from 1' to 3' yet there is many a drought... it's accelerating.

Nevertheless I am still going on vacation

The problem is, that our datum is "incomplete" as we have only kept records from the mid 1800's onward- we may be in a noraml "warming" part of the "Warming/cooling" cycle.

Just presenting one fact of several hundred thousand in this argument.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:30 am

Anecdotally... the vikings named Greenland what they did because it was green when they discovered it. At the same time, Scotland was able to grow vinyards. Obviously those things are no longer true. Since that time the planet went through what is called the "little ice age". Now we seem to be coming out of it (maybe... the planet hasn't warmed measurably since 1998).

Why do some wish to convince us that the planet is better off with an average global temperature like we had during the 1940's as opposed to one like we had during the 16th century? Were the warm temperatures of the 16th century wiping out species left and right and destroying humankind? Not that I've heard of. Perhaps with a warmer AGT we will be able to grow food in places where we currently cannot.

There's a lot that could be discussed.

YYZ30 · Post by **YYZ30** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:33 am

ElfDude wrote:Anecdotally... the vikings named Greenland what they did because it was green when they discovered it. At the same time, Scotland was able to grow vinyards. Obviously those things are no longer true. Since that time the planet went through what is called the "little ice age". Now we seem to be coming out of it (maybe... the planet hasn't warmed measurably since 1998).

Why do some wish to convince us that the planet is better off with an average global temperature like we had during the 1940's as opposed to one like we had during the 16th century? Were the warm temperatures of the 16th century wiping out species left and right and destroying humankind? Not that I've heard of. Perhaps with a warmer AGT we will be able to grow food in places where we currently cannot.

There's a lot that could be discussed.

Good points!

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:52 am

Agreed, but my difficulty with "warming" is that I love/crave/can't live without winter, snow, cold, ice, fresh, humidity-free air. I hate bugs, heat, mugginess, burning hot surfaces, and having to use AC. So I and others like me are basically facked. Maybe a move to Alaska would be good, but then I'd probably be swept right back on a wave of melting ice mountains.

ElfDude · Post by **ElfDude** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:03 am

Big Blue Owl wrote:Agreed, but my difficulty with "warming" is that I love/crave/can't live without winter, snow, cold, ice, fresh, humidity-free air. I hate bugs, heat, mugginess, burning hot surfaces, and having to use AC. So I and others like me are basically facked. Maybe a move to Alaska would be good, but then I'd probably be swept right back on a wave of melting ice mountains.

How about Minnesota?

Big Blue Owl · Post by **Big Blue Owl** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 am

That might be good for a few years, eh? I could legally do Canada for 6 months out of the year as well, right? Wow, suddenly I'm an illegal alien seeking an igloo to lounge around naked in.

Global Warming is a SIN!

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:28 am

ElfDude wrote:Anecdotally... the vikings named Greenland what they did because it was green when they discovered it. At the same time, Scotland was able to grow vinyards. Obviously those things are no longer true. Since that time the planet went through what is called the "little ice age". Now we seem to be coming out of it (maybe... the planet hasn't warmed measurably since 1998).

Why do some wish to convince us that the planet is better off with an average global temperature like we had during the 1940's as opposed to one like we had during the 16th century? Were the warm temperatures of the 16th century wiping out species left and right and destroying humankind? Not that I've heard of. Perhaps with a warmer AGT we will be able to grow food in places where we currently cannot.

There's a lot that could be discussed.

I was taught that Greenland and Iceland, respectively, were named so
by the discoverers to fool other explorers into thinking the geography
was true to the name!

In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:57 am

CygnusX1 wrote: In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.

....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:11 am

Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote: In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty

Noooooooo...that means you're from the land of SCOTCH.

I love scotch....scotchscotchscotch

Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE??

grrrrr....

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:14 am

CygnusX1 wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote: In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....

Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink

Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog

CygnusX1 · Post by **CygnusX1** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:23 am

Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote: In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....
Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog

LEAVE??? BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR DRINK???

That's just un-American.

Waste a beer or drink here and you'll get a foot-in-the-arse.

Rocinante · Post by **Rocinante** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:37 am

CygnusX1 wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote:
Rocinante wrote:
CygnusX1 wrote: In other words, Greenland is actually ICY, and Iceland GREEN.
....and obviously then, Scotland stuck with what they knew and remains....... Scotty
Does that mean that IRELAND is the land of IRE?? grrrrr....
Jeez...they can be.....if you don't buy them a drink Which is always a pleasure for me, however, they always try and leave before you're finished drinkin' yur grog
LEAVE??? BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR DRINK???

That's just un-American.

Waste a beer or drink here and you'll get a foot-in-the-arse.

That said....some of us don't know when to stop