2112: The Voices

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2112: The Voices

Post by The Snow Dog » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:39 pm

in the end of the entire 2112 sequence (all of side A on vinyl i think) the voices "ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH. WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL".... are those the Priests of Syrinx, or the returning people of Earth?
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Post by awip2062 » Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:58 pm

Ahhhhh...the oft debated question of who had assumed control.

Or was it:
"Attention all people of the Solar Federation!
Attention all people of the Solar Federation!
Attention all people of the Solar Federation!
We have consumed cheese.
We have consumed cheese.
We have consumed cheese?" :wink:

Anyhow, I say it was the taking of the story full circle. The story starts out with Anonymous's journal, in which we hear of the Priests talking control in 2062. Then we find out all of what happened to him. It appears to me that the voice is that of the Priests coming to us now. Now we have to live under that extreme socialistic society that Jon and Anonymous lived (and Anon died) under. Just my thoughts, and I may be wrong.

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Post by *Lifesonite » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:03 pm

The Solar Federation is the vehicle for the ruling Priests I think. But to answer your question in the end it is the elder race returning to assume control.

Something I just noticed, when the Priests took control it was an interplanetary revolution. I thought that after the Soliloquy where Anonymous kills himself that it was fast-forwarding to when the elder race returns as he imagined they would in Oracle: The Dream.
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Post by Sir Myghin » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:21 pm

i think it is merely a resistance who battled the priests and managed to restore balance over the socialism

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Post by *Lifesonite » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:32 pm

The way I imagined it is they drop out of hyper-space or whatever form of travel they've devised and broadcast to the planets that they've assumed control. That would be a very large coup to stage for the resistance fighters, it doesn't seem plausible to me. But then again, things get lax after 50 years of peace.

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Post by The Snow Dog » Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:35 pm

I always figured it was Us (the Elder Race) coming back and whippin' ass. just like annonimous said we would. kind of gives the album a sort of irony. just when he kills himself, we come home...

a deeper meaning perhaps. then, perhaps not.
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Post by *Lifesonite » Thu Mar 18, 2004 8:50 pm

There's nothing to denote the timeline throughout the piece, so they could have come back any number of years after that, possibly centuries, or it couldn't have happened at all. Remember, in The Dream he imagined them growing stronger to take their home back, that would take quite awhile.

With Anonymous dead, our storyteller, the ending is completely open to interpretation. That's one of the more logical assumptions with what we're given though.

As Geddy said, the conceptual work is very nebulous.

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Post by wcp » Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:01 pm

i always liked to think of it as the Priests continuing their oppression. don't knwo why just seems more dramaticle that way. he fights for freedom and in the end they just assume control again. and it's lost.
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Post by Aerosmitten » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:58 am

wcp wrote:i always liked to think of it as the Priests continuing their oppression. don't knwo why just seems more dramaticle that way. he fights for freedom and in the end they just assume control again. and it's lost.
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Post by *Lifesonite » Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 am

You can't deny the fact that the Solar Federation are the oppressors! Who broadcasts a message like that to their governing system? It seems a bit redundant. I'm sticking with the elder race returning!

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Post by The Snow Dog » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:53 am

yay! support!
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Post by wcp » Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:38 am

i think they are reporting it because of the recent misshaps caused by Anonymous, letting everyone know once agian they have oppressed and are in control.
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Post by Sir Myghin » Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:18 pm

thats actually very logical,

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Post by *Lifesonite » Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:36 pm

Nothing like an intergalactic transmission to all channels for a minor disturbance that one Priest was able to squash :P You must be in a Union!

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Post by The Snow Dog » Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:31 pm

I still say it's us whippin ass
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