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Damn.

I feel sick.

I changed my way of thinking about him...

I don't have anything close to the respect I
used to have for him.

I mean, how bad could it have been (to do
something that heinous)?

CygnusX1 wrote:I changed my way of thinking about him...

I don't have anything close to the respect I
used to have for him.

I mean, how bad could it have been (to do
something that heinous)?

C:

You're not the only one who feels that way- I do also. I talked to an old coworker last night (we both follow wrestling) and once I heard his take on it made perfect sense.

Its a tragic ending to this whole situation.

On The O'Reilly Factor (Benoit) discussion last night, he
gave a disturbing stat:

Of 400-something active Pro Wrestlers, sixty have died...

(Something like that.....I didn't get the exact number)

Granted - not by the same causes, but still a alarming
statistic just the same.

YYZ30 wrote:

CygnusX1 wrote:I changed my way of thinking about him...

I don't have anything close to the respect I
used to have for him.

I mean, how bad could it have been (to do
something that heinous)?

C:

You're not the only one who feels that way- I do also. I talked to an old coworker last night (we both follow wrestling) and once I heard his take on it made perfect sense.

Its a tragic ending to this whole situation.

Yeah, it's really confusing to try to comprehend...Personally,
I don't know how to make heads or tails out of it, so I gotta
understand that it-is-what-it-is.

Obviously the 7year old is the most troubling thing about this.
I would hope/think he wasn't clear of mind when he did this.

Sounds like he maybe came out of the roid rage, saw what he did,
then hung himself. Who knows though.

I don't think unless they find a note, which I don't think is gonna happen, that anyone will ever know exactly WHY.

I am torn in two on this. On one hand CB was one of the greatest wrestlers to ever get into the squared circle................

On the other he is a murderous piece of shit that deserves no peace while rotting and burning in hell for these attrocities.

I don't like to feel like this.

Well, do you think maybe some solace could be taken
if it is proven he was in a roid rage, and wasn't
himself when he did this? At least you'd know he didn't rationally
go and kill his family.
Just kinda thinking out loud.

Middle Kingdom wrote:Well, do you think maybe some solace could be taken
if it is proven he was in a roid rage, and wasn't
himself when he did this? At least you'd know he didn't rationally
go and kill his family.
Just kinda thinking out loud.

No, I fully get that possibility, and could prolly except it. It kind of shifts blame but it does make it more understandable, I guess.


Check out what I found...........................


Benoit tragedy not the only one
Kevin Hench
FOXSports.com, Updated 12 minutes ago

Professional wrestling is fake. The carnage it has left in its wake is not.


Add Chris Benoit to the long list of freakishly muscled carnival attractions for whom a pro wrestling career ended tragically.

Toxicology results are pending and Benoit may well have been battling deeper, more primal personal demons when he reportedly killed his wife and son before taking his own life, but only the most na?ve observer could ignore the overwhelming evidence that most wrestlers who look like Benoit have undergone countless cycles of chemical enhancement.

The prescription anabolic steroids found at Benoit's home have long been known to contribute to paranoia, depression and the violent outbursts we've come to know as "roid rage." Couple that with the near-compulsory painkillers a wrestler must take to do his job effectively after enduring countless body slams and you have a cocktail for massive, mind-altering mood swings.

The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.

Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.


Ravishing Rick Rude ? Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.

Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli ? Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.

"Flyin" Brian Pillman ? An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.

Rick "the Renegade" Williams ? Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig ? Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.

Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i ? Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.

Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" ? Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.

Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand ? An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.

Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" ? In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.

Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" ? Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.

Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez ? Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.

Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor ? Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.

Eddie Guerrero ? After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.

Chris Candido ? Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.

Owen Hart ? Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
And then there's the story of the Von Erich wrestling family.

Wrestling patriarch Fritz Von Erich, nee Jack Adkisson, had five wrestling sons: Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike and Chris.

David died in a hotel room in Tokyo at the age of 25 in 1984 just as he was embarking on a three-week pro wrestling tour of Japan. The official cause of death was acute enteritis, severe inflammation of the intestines.

Three years later, Mike committed suicide by overdosing on the tranquilizer Placidyl at the age of 23. After David's death, Mike had suffered a series of setbacks including a serious shoulder injury that had left him severely depressed.

Devastated by the deaths of his older brothers and frustrated by his own limitations as a wrestler, the youngest and smallest brother, Chris, shot himself to death at the age of 21 in 1991.

Two years later, Kerry, who had battled a long addiction to painkillers, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 33, leaving eldest brother Kevin as the only survivor of the sport that had defined his family.

And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.

(They failed to mention Miss Elizabeth) Lex Luger had something to do with her death, and is in jail because of it. From a tv special I watch a few years back.

There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.

But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.

And the price for many of them is their very lives.

Wow....that's a powerful post Hairy.

I remember most of those too....

Don't forget "Sensational Sherry's" recent passing either...

She was the current AWA Women's Champion at 47 years old.

Details of her death are still being determined as well.

I missed her on this by accident.

Walkinghairball wrote:I missed her on this by accident.

No need Bro...I TOTALLY get it.

I gotta rescind the thingie about VKM...I heard he went in the ring
and announced the Benoit thing the first 5 minutes of RAW.

Naturally...I was hoarding beer to save me trips to the fridge
so I could watch...

Walkinghairball wrote:I don't think unless they find a note, which I don't think is gonna happen, that anyone will ever know exactly WHY.

I am torn in two on this. On one hand CB was one of the greatest wrestlers to ever get into the squared circle................

On the other he is a murderous piece of shit that deserves no peace while rotting and burning in hell for these attrocities.

I don't like to feel like this.

my feelings as well

Middle Kingdom wrote:Well, do you think maybe some solace could be taken
if it is proven he was in a roid rage, and wasn't
himself when he did this? At least you'd know he didn't rationally
go and kill his family.
Just kinda thinking out loud.

we'd all like to shift the blame, but must come to grips that the person himself had something to do with it as well